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舊 04-06-2003   #1
alanlin
 
QR25DE = NEXT NISSAN SPORTS CAR ENGINE???

It seems like Nissan is using the same engine with many cars at the moments~

hum.. does that mean the QR25DE from the Spec-V will end up in the S-chassis predessesor..

WOULD WE HAVE A NISSAN 250VX? hee. i hope so~

anyone think this is possible?
or have an opinions????

Here are the specs:

Engine Code: QR25DE
Type: Inline four, aluminum block and head
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves per cylinder,
VTC variable intake cam timing
Displacement: 2488cc
Bore x Stroke: 89.0mm x 100.0mm
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Claimed Crank Hp: 175 hp @ 6000 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque: 180 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Measured Wheel Hp: 141 hp @ 5750 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 150 lb-ft@ 3750 rpm
Redline: 6200 rpm


I wonder what will happen to
Cam duration and Lift? Composition of metals used to build the Rods? pistons? Crank? Strength of Valve Spring~

KA/SR vs. QR ?
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舊 04-06-2003   #2
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QR25 on se-r spec v,altima 2.5
VQ35 on Altima3.5,G35(c),350Z,Maxima,murano...etc
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舊 04-06-2003   #3
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sports car??? i don't think so
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舊 04-07-2003   #4
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The only way Nissan can make a sport engine out of it is to reworked the bore/stroke ratio. As I see the engine has no top end and won't be able to raise redline much further either.
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舊 04-07-2003   #5
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The only way Nissan can make a sport engine out of it is to reworked the bore/stroke ratio. As I see the engine has no top end and won't be able to raise redline much further either.
Why a sport engine must have a high redline?? Theoretically, the larger the Bore-Stroke ratio, the higher the engine will have higher RPM. But what good does a high rev engine make when ur max power and torque comes out at 6k/4K rpm?

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舊 04-07-2003   #6
alanlin
 
hum.. interesting...

anyone think there could be the possiblity of Nissan building another sports car though!? like one cheaper than the Z`?

btw, isn't the KA a truck engine?? correct me if i'm wrong.
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舊 04-07-2003   #7
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they got enough sports car.....................I think....
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舊 04-07-2003   #8
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Why a sport engine must have a high redline?? Theoretically, the larger the Bore-Stroke ratio, the higher the engine will have higher RPM. But what good does a high rev engine make when ur max power and torque comes out at 6k/4K rpm?
save gas
LOL
j/k
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舊 04-07-2003   #9
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Why a sport engine must have a high redline?? Theoretically, the larger the Bore-Stroke ratio, the higher the engine will have higher RPM. But what good does a high rev engine make when ur max power and torque comes out at 6k/4K rpm?
Why must a sport engine have high redline you ask? A sport engine without beautiful sound is like a person without souls. To achieve the best harmonic ear music ideally you should have a high redline V12 breathing behind you. Also a sport engine is suppose to push on further when you rev it that extra grunt you get when you go beyond 6000 rpm. High redline is the only way an engine can make power in naturally asipirated form. Turbo need not to apply because of potential turbo lag concerns N/A engine still provides the finest throttle control.


You are mistaken my friend. I'll give you an example RSX Type S and TSX both share the same K series block. RSX have bore/stroke ratio of 86*86 and tsx have 87*99 from your statement TSX would have higher redline. Which in reality is inaccurate because TSX already run into piston speed problems if you try to raise the 7100 rpm redline. While RSX Type S have a redline of 7900 rpm and it's Type R sibling with same B/S ratio have redline at 8400 rpm but with forged internals. Just remember Bore is indication of your valve area and Stroke is connecting rods. Bore and Stroke tells you the engine characteristic while providing information such as displacement size.


Horsepower is just an indication of how strong the torque is over time. You are suppose to shift right after you peak torque point. There is no point in reving further because after peak torque your engine drops power dramatically. Therefore if you have an engine that makes peak torque in high rpm zone you can take advantage of gearing. You drop out of your powerband everytime you shift while I can stay in the sweet zone through the close gearing. Also the longer you can stay in a gear the better because shifting eats up a lot of time.
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舊 04-07-2003   #10
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Do you want an engine with a wide powerband or an engine with the peak HP in the top end?

Different car manufacture have their own thinking of a sport engine... For expamle, both Viper and ZO6 have low redline engines, and they both have a very low output/liter ratio. Do these 2 engines consider as a Sport engine? The V10 from Viper was the all around winner in the GT2 class. The AMG V8 55 engine also have a low redline at 7K rpm and you can have power almost in any engine speed. The screaming sound of a high rev engine is sure fun to listen and drive, but it's not necessary for a sport engine.

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